Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hey, everyone.
[00:00:00] Speaker B: I'm Jane. I'm kitten.
[00:00:02] Speaker A: As you know, my name is Pat. It's that time again. It's time for another episode of the Kinky Christian podcast.
All right, so welcome to another episode of the Kinky Christian podcast.
As always, I am Pat. I'm kitten, and this episode, we want to talk about CNC.
I'm CNC.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: No, don't do it.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: I'm gonna do it again. C. Okay. I'm sorry.
So, what is CNC?
[00:00:50] Speaker B: Consensual non consent.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: And how does that even make sense?
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Because it's consensual non consent. No consent happening. It's basically free for all that. You get to do whatever you want to do, and I consent to it.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: But then how is it non consent?
[00:01:19] Speaker B: Because it's probably.
I don't know.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: What do you mean, you don't know?
[00:01:28] Speaker B: I don't know. I lost my train of thoughts. The train just said, done.
[00:01:34] Speaker A: Peace out.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Girl Scout said, nope. Your turn.
[00:01:37] Speaker A: So, with consensual non consent, and we've been toying with the idea of it.
We have not done it yet.
[00:01:49] Speaker B: Because clearly, we don't know what we're talking about.
[00:01:51] Speaker A: Well, we do. We know what it is. Here's the thing with consensual non consent. A lot of it's just what Kitten said. You are setting up ahead of time to say, I'm consenting for you to just come in and do whatever you want.
A lot of times, it's, like, more rough, and it's like maybe a rape scene or something like that, where a kidnapping. Something a little more. I don't want to say violent, but traumatic. Yeah. And so it's. That's why you set it up ahead of time, because CNC can get out of hand easily.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: And very physical.
[00:02:38] Speaker A: And very physical. Very physical.
Rape scenes are CNC. It's consensual non consent. You're going in and raping them with their consent.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Right.
[00:02:56] Speaker A: So it's basically a way of having uncontrolled control over something, if that. It's very, like, very contradictory to itself.
The dangers are real. You have to be careful, because especially as the sub or the slave who is consenting to have non consent.
If I go in there, and this is why, like I said, we're discussing this ourselves and seeing where we want to go with this, but if I go in there and I just want to slam her on the bed or choke her or, you know, stick it and have anal, just. It's. That's what it is. It's. They want to be ravished and not.
They will fight back.
Like, so you have, you know, you may get punched. You may get punched. But all that is worked out, even though it sounds kind of contradictory to itself, you still work it out ahead of time. There are still limits if you want them.
If I. If you don't, if you truly just say, there are no limit, you do what you want to do.
It could get.
I mean, I don't know how to put it. It can get very intense. Very intense.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And a lot of the hesitation is because, one, we've not done it.
We've heard about it. We've seen bits and pieces of it.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: I've read a lot about it.
[00:04:47] Speaker B: We've read a lot about it. I think we attended a class about it.
[00:04:52] Speaker A: We did at Kinky College.
[00:04:54] Speaker B: College.
But also, there's, like, when you're dealing with a sub or a master for.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: That.
[00:05:10] Speaker B: Who has been through traumas of that nature, of being raped or being abused. Abused or being the person who has been accused of that, it can trigger a lot of stuff. So if you're even considering it and you've been through any of those types of situations, then we highly, highly recommend that you vet this entire scene and.
[00:05:47] Speaker A: The person you're gonna do it with.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: Right. Because the last thing you want is to be set in some, you know, level four trauma unit because you had a major meltdown or, you know, or.
[00:06:04] Speaker A: In jail because cops end up showing up, and now someone's accused of rape.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Yes. You don't want that either.
[00:06:13] Speaker A: You know, I mean, there's all sorts of your mental health, physical health, physical well being. Well being, you know?
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:06:23] Speaker A: It's something for us. This is something that's, like, next level, you know?
[00:06:31] Speaker B: Yeah. So we get into some stuff, but not.
[00:06:37] Speaker A: Not something like this nature, because, I mean, with CNC, like I said, it's. There are people who even negotiate. No safe words. I'm against that. To me, I don't care what scene I'm doing with her or anybody. I don't do scenes with anyone else. But if I were to.
There's always gonna be a safe word. There's a. And if I got you tied and gagged, there's gonna be something that will say, okay, I need to stop. Because I know Kitten has had traumas in her life, and she may think going into this, I'm good.
And then we get going, and it triggers stuff that she didn't even know.
I'm not gonna want to put her through that, because one that is a horrible thing to do to a person.
Two, what that would do to our relationship, and three, how that would make her view me going forward, because then there's a strong possibility that she associates me with this trauma that happened in her past and looks at what just happened now in the same vein as then. So now she's going to look at.
[00:07:53] Speaker B: Me differently, and that would be horrible. I don't want to look at him like I look at those other people.
[00:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't want you to.
So CNC, though, it can be exciting, it can be thrilling, and it can be therapeutic. Even some people get therapy out of that. You know, I heard stories of women who have been raped that have a rape scene with somebody, and it helps to take away the pain and the stigma and the mental anguish they had, because now they're associating what happened with the person they're with now, who they love with positive. With positive reinforcement. Yes, they still think that one was bad, but it changes the way their brain looks at things. And they can let that one go because they've kind of re wallpapered that incident with this incident.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: I'm not saying that happens with everyone or happens a lot. I don't know. I just say I have heard that some people, it is therapeutic for them, so. But, yes, we have discussed doing, like, rape scenes or kidnap scenes or, you know, something like that.
We'll see where it goes. I don't know if it'll ever happen.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: If it does, great. If it doesn't, great. We got other things that we enjoy. So.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah, but just make sure, like kitten said, vet everything the person there are. Even with CNC there, you can put limits. You know, all that's saying is these are the things that, even if I tell you no at the time, go ahead and do it, I'm giving you my consent to. Even if I'm telling you no, you still have my consent to do it.
That's the whole thing. So if we do a rape scene and I go to do some anal and she's screaming, no, no, don't do it. Unless she gives me the safe word or the safe sign where I really know that that no is no. And she may mean no at the moment, but in her mind, she's like, no, this is part of the scene, you know?
And it may. In all honesty, it may hurt, it may do something, but she wants to experience the whole thing. That's why you set those parameters ahead of time. So if she truly is tapping out, I'll have a way to know, that's why I'm not a fan of having no safe word. But some people do. They want the full experience.
[00:10:47] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:10:48] Speaker A: Not a fan of it myself.
[00:10:49] Speaker B: More power to you.
[00:10:51] Speaker A: If that's what you want.
[00:10:52] Speaker B: Safely, yes.
[00:10:53] Speaker A: Just be safe, you know? And I know if you vet the right people, if you get the right dom and the right sub, no safe word will. I think, for us, no safe word would work.
[00:11:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we'd be fine.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: We'd be fine.
So we just choose not to? We just choose, yeah. It's a safety thing for us, you know, so.
But, yeah, I mean, if you are interested in it, you know, research it.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: Absolutely. Don't go in blind and don't just.
[00:11:24] Speaker A: Take what we're saying for face value.
[00:11:27] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:11:28] Speaker A: Never take what we say at face value. You know, we do research, don't get me wrong. And we've been in the lifestyle for about five years ish, since 2019, 2020 ish.
And we do read books and we do talk to people, so.
But we're not the end all, be all on anything that we talk about. We're here to get you started, give you a little bit of, you know, entry level, you know, information and go from there.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: So that's our spiel on CNC.
Consensual non consent.
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Anything else?
[00:12:38] Speaker B: I don't think so.
[00:12:39] Speaker A: I think we're good.
So until next time, take care of yourselves, take care of each other.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: And God blessed.
